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Code for Sidekick Sport
#11
one other factor is Suzuki,  they do this on many parts.
the j18 parts were used in newer engines, even 2007 , J23 for 1 example
so suzuki,  would then delete the old suffix 77E00 code and use then newer number. (77E means J18 , and is used on VAST parts inside the engine too.)
this causes problems in the aftermarket sellers for sure their ecatalogs.  what to call the part is problematic. now.
see?

see this.
https://www.suzukicarparts.com/parts/199...eid=214820

see the 65D00? (yup a new number that is)
that is 2007, j23, Aerio car part and SX4, now used , backWARDS TO YEAR 1996 , AN 11 YEAR LEAP BACK IN TIME.
SEE THAT?
the new number is this, and 11 years newer. number (thermostats) at suzuki real come with the gasket ring, in the box. (unlike many aftermarket sellers) ok?
17670-65D00 (new)
17670-77E00 (old 1996) 77E means J18 back then first usage of 77 codes. ok? even the cylinder head is coded, 77E00
My guess, is the 27 code mean the new part that fits, all suzuki's that had the 77E part and the 65D part.

For sure suzuki did this blunder. the ripple effect. changing part numbers. ( now that we, know this, we must now forget it, fast, I did, and had to look it up again) LOL
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#12
STANT answered
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This are the same part the difference in the part number is packaging. Either of the numbers will work 25281 or 27281.



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(08-13-2019, 06:23 AM)fixkick Wrote: STANT answered
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This are the same part the difference in the part number is packaging. Either of the numbers will work 25281 or 27281.



Thanks

Thanks for your time. I did email them and the answer is Gasket are the same except for packaging.
So parts order is on the way from rockauto.com.
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#15
the word insufficient means (in oBD2 lingo)
too low
or too slow
this PCM is smarter than most in 1996.
the PCM has timer, that expects certain things to happen by the factor of TIME.
thermostat hot 180f is one
and closed loop late is the other.

it is smart enough to know that closed loop happens near 150f on the rise.
if that is too slow, it tells you it is.
if that stat is slow, that means it will die soon, a very very bad thing to happen even warped head as prize.
or far far worse. overheating is never good.


the EPA not only regulates smog
but also how long it takes to get there, TIME.
if it take all week long to get clean exhaust then that fails. (taken to extremes you see EPA logic)
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(08-14-2019, 02:25 AM)fixkick  (thermostat or STAT for short) Wrote: the word insufficient means (in oBD2 lingo not just English meaning)
too low
or too slow
this PCM is smarter than most in 1996.
the PCM has timer, that expects certain things to happen by the factor of TIME.
thermostat hot 180f  is one
and closed loop late is the other.

it is smart enough to know that closed loop happens near 150f on the rise.
if that is too slow, it tells you it is.
if that stat is slow,  that means it will die soon, a very very bad thing to happen even warped head as  prize.
or far far worse.  overheating is never good.(even a warped head)

a slow stat or too low stat, is a Stat soon to die and go worse, (not open at all is super worse)


the EPA not only regulates smog
but also how long it takes to get there, TIME.
if it take all week long to get clean exhaust then that fails. (taken to extremes you see EPA logic)


The orders of the Stant thermostat and the Stant seal and also the FOUR SEASONS 78491 AC and the FOUR SEASONS 33589 {#33596} Filter Drier from rockauto.com are on the way. They will arrive by earlier September. The prices for the orders are acceptable however the prices for the shipping are huge but still cheaper that from https://www.amayama.com/en
https://www.megazip.net and even https://partsouq.com/.
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#17
i see you are in Viet Nam,?, this is good to post so helpers know where you are and where parts are sold, not 12,000 miles away and expensive shipping and delays.
and you need to post with year car, 1996 to 1998.
some parts on this engine vary by year, range above, so, year MATTERS
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#18
best is to own a car that is supported in your country. (Toyota?)
buying parts from 8000 mile away can be very expensive. (delays , custom fees, and more,)
suzuki still sells these parts. new.
so there is that.
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(08-15-2019, 09:53 PM)fixkick Wrote: i see you are in Viet Nam,?,  this is good to post so helpers know where you are and where  parts are sold, not 12,000 miles away and expensive shipping and delays.
and you need to post with year car, 1996 to 1998.
some parts on this engine vary by year, range above, so, year MATTERS

My sidekick sport is 1996.

Toyota with 4x4 here is always too big to run cheap for me. Their parts are also expensive. Buying parts from Japan is also expensive, like https://www.amayama.com/en
https://www.megazip.net and even https://partsouq.com/.
The prices at rockauto.com are acceptable, but the shipping is huge. However it is still cheaper than from https://www.amayama.com/en, https://www.megazip.net andeven https://partsouq.com/.
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(08-16-2019, 06:37 PM)rasmeidirt Wrote:
(08-15-2019, 09:53 PM)fixkick Wrote: i see you are in Viet Nam,?,  this is good to post so helpers know where you are and where  parts are sold, not 12,000 miles away and expensive shipping and delays.
and you need to post with year car, 1996 to 1998.
some parts on this engine vary by year, range above, so, year MATTERS

My sidekick sport is 1996.

Toyota with 4x4 here is always too big to run cheap for me. Their parts are also expensive. Buying parts from Japan is also expensive, like https://www.amayama.com/en
https://www.megazip.net and even https://partsouq.com/.
The prices at rockauto.com are acceptable, but the shipping is huge. However it is still cheaper than from https://www.amayama.com/en, https://www.megazip.net andeven https://partsouq.com/.
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