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95 tracker no start
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(07-08-2019, 08:52 PM)fixkick Wrote:
(07-08-2019, 02:11 PM)BigJake Wrote: Just found this forum and havent found the exact problem.
I have a 95 tracker with a 16 valve I just got finished swapping a 97 16 valve into it as oil pump failur broke my camshaft.
 The 97 was a good running engine out of a wrecked 2 wd mine is 4x4.
I did the swap and even swapped the intakes and harness I also had to swap the distributor to the 97 engine.
I cannot seem to get this thing to fire (no spark) spark is good but timing wrong or engine bad.
. Something seems to be shutting my fuel off. (normal 100% the ECU sees spark dead, so cuts all fuel. to prevent massive fuel flooding and even bend rods)
I have good hot blue spark not 100 percent sure it's timed correctly but it seems to be, brought number one up in compression stroke checked valves they are all closed on number 1. Dizzy was pointing at number 1 I am using 1 4 3 2 as order CCW rotation.it just had a new timing belt installed before wreck. It is timed at 8 degrees.  wrong 1342,  
1432 is for flat boxer engine, this is not.

This thing has me stumped. Take me back To the basics what am i missing? I have code 12 but it sure doesnt run....any  ideas?
welcome, and below is my way, based on AGE of car, (steps)
first off the 97 is OBD2 system  and 95 Is not , its OBD1;
the error you made is not swapping it as basic long block (you did  whole engine +did manifolds, and worse is distributor, )
the OBD2 distrib has no way to work in a OBD1 ECU, car.95 , so there can be no spark. so i see you figured that out.  EGR is different too on 97, (but must  be modified to work with 95 ECU brain)
the first thing to do on ANY G16 is make sure that large 17mm head bottom crank bolt is at 94ft/lbs,  CW turned and torqued to new spec, or risk bad crank #2 easy.
then check compression , why do all this work if 97 engine is bad,  or even cam belt slipped,  180PSI is PAR. x4 (sure it ran before but how long ago I dont know so..... i do this step)
then time the distributor last but only if cam is timed right or is a wasted effort.  (new belt so may be ok, compression if done right, and the false marks on the cam cog wheel, make doing this wrong SO EASY)
the DIZZY rotor spins CCW, on this engine, not  CW. (as 8valve G16a does opposite)
so we time it in the CCW  rotation.
per

https://fixkick.com/16v-ignition-timing

if timing was off the strobe light works even dead engine cranked.  does #1 strobe correctly hear 0deg (8degrees BTDC)?  

the factory installed the distributor one of 4 ways,  the  O-clock rule  to match the harness wires.  at 1PM see in the graph above, link;. or below photo.
step  7 drops the distributor correctly.  this is the best way,  I can do it 3 other ways but this is best. 1PM timed.
crank is at 0degree TDC or 8degr btdc. while timing, it this way static base timing, (ecu does spark advance not dizzy on this car)
rotor is at 1PM (crank TDC  0)
lay the wires down as seen. in the drawing linked above.
all the photos there are for 96+so do not be worried there, the 96up have internal spark coil and side connector a bit different , times the same way.  (avoid the 96up distib, it is useless on 1995 ECU)



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Thanks for the reply. I was tired when I posted the other night. The firing order is 1 4 3 2 and that is how I have it in a CCW rotation. My compression is between 180 and 185. I can get just a brief startup by spraying gas into the intake no way to keep it running on the spray bottle which is very weird. It's like something is saying shut the fire off. I  did swap the entire 97 engine in at first then switched the distibutor from the 95 into the 97. I also switched the entire harness and injectors and intake because of the differences in sensors and such. I'm at a complete loss here this makes no sense.
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95 tracker no start - by BigJake - 07-08-2019, 02:11 PM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-08-2019, 08:52 PM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by BigJake - 07-11-2019, 03:45 AM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-11-2019, 05:57 AM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by BigJake - 07-11-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-11-2019, 10:12 PM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-08-2019, 11:41 PM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-09-2019, 01:57 AM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-11-2019, 05:59 AM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-11-2019, 10:40 PM
RE: 95 tracker no start - by fixkick - 07-11-2019, 11:49 PM

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