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MPI 16v injector replacement
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(11-15-2015, 10:21 PM)fixkick Wrote: so it runs untill this mini tank runs dry. in the hope the injectors are cleaned. (mostly just a dream,,,,,imo... but cheap fix if it works. sure. (tool in shop paid for.)
Well I asked if getting new ones would be better and you suggested the cleaning service which could be hard to find, well again it is not better to get reman ones?

i guess you never read this... my first link on my first page
http://www.fixkick.com/specs/orig-sales-sticker.jpg

Oh I have read lots and lot of your pagas but that particular link no. BTW your site being very comprehensive and informative it is very overwhelming in terms off how info is presented, links in sentences all over the place and so on and so forth. Just last night I spent 40 minutes reading on about differents things. But don't get me wrong it is the best site Ive seen as how to really fix cars.

see this LOOK? 19 to 30, is the official spec. and i have links my MPG page to a major MPG web site, showing 100s. of folks what they get. no lack of data....
and what you get in the city , is anything, city traffic has no worst case and gets worse every year.... more cars, more bad.
every time you stop. the MPG goes NEGATIVE ! see?
I know that. I have a friend that has and in dash MPG calculator (stock) on a 2001 Passat and Ive seen how is affected in slow traffic and cruising.


open source too....
build the mpg gage. listed on same page.... learn what car does, and how to drive. (highway,, in the city , there is little you can do, avoid it, take altenate routes use GPS live data, for you tomtom and avoid traffic? but MPG is highway thing,.... unless you an electric car or hybrid.
those 2 can use no fuel at all at a stop sign.. (directly or indirectly)

you dont have a scan tool
so you cant even see if closed loop works , at idle, and light cruise? (right no tool)? this is the key factor to best MPG, on all EFI engines.


Cheers..... the above data, is USA data using USA gallons, and newer, imperial gallons that go much farther...(as seen in odd places, in say Canada)
the gallons deal.
http://www.fixkick.com/what_is_a_gallon.html



seen here, Graphically ! on the red can, fuel folks know it even exists. but.... it keeps popping up..... oddly.
so on those cars, 29mpg is. 34.8 mpg, but is the same number.... (fuel rates same)

is say that, because some islands still use imperial measure, from the British commonwealth , long ago, in a time warp....aka ."Crown Colonies"
but liters ,never lie.... so.....

Here we uses liters, price is for liters, but no Brit standards here. They tried to get in but failed.

my mpg page covers , always to get poor MPG, (hope)
ever read it?
huge factors and variables exist.... vast.
even a bad bearing. or a warped exhaust, header flange or leak there.

or running low tire pressures, as Oh'bummer said...


Actually the thing not to do from my post question is a copy paste of your page on how to get better MPG. So that answers that.
ever seen the Gauge.

http://ecomodder.com/wiki/index.php/MPGuino

there it is,
no better way to learn how to MPG drive. shows the sweet spot in top gear. letting you know, oh .oh, me driving too fast, see the MPG go bad.
in real time... it does that. (instant MPG) (happens in 02 closed loop , only)

they'd sell these in stores.....
but there are very few folks driving 1995 cars. or older. (most were retired, or wrecked or the transmission quite and costs more than car is worth, truth being...)
and fewer yet, with cash to buy tools or have time to make make one. (or a Ham buddy to solder it)
it uses the 02 and MAF to reverse calculate the MPG. with VSS sensor.
the 02 and maf tells you live fuel consumed. (stoich rules on he 02 do that)
the VSS tells you how far. (tail shaft speeds)
and then algebra does, MPG = miles/Gallon. / = divide,
the tool must be calibrated to your axle ratio. to make the VSS data correct.

but a scan tool would work better, im my opinion, to see if the engine is running right.
with a scan tool I can get those 3 above data values and log them and do MPG calcs, sitting at a desk.... at home.
my mpg page shows me doing just that, and my MAF page, same data..

I guess like you say car being that old makes it more difficult.

the tool is here.
http://www.rhinopower.org/diag/sdl_if.html

the only one on planet earth.
not used off ebay called a tech1, for $400 to $800 bucks, USD and OLD. and a hope that a tool that old still works.

i gave up hacking it long ago. (went 100% jeep when suzuki went chapter 11 here, a pain getting parts now , here (and here) )
http://www.fixkick.com/hacking/hacked/ad...l#NEW-wave

So is it time for me to get a Jeep?
Suzuki never published the protocol , nor interface signaling rates or levels.
it's all a big secret.
only tedious reverse engineering works,
except to Tech1 maker, long ago, Vetronix, now owned by R. BOSCH.
they may have plug-ins for the newer Tech2, but that tools is way more expensive,
like here
https://suzukipitstopplus.com/Category/1...-tool.aspx
Well just to get an average on my MPG since my options are few. Would the mileage at instrument at fill up vs miles driven and next fill up calculation that I see a lot on web sites, would at least give me a number close so I would have an idea?

Gracias!!!

Are these still available?

http://ecomodder.com/wiki/index.php/MPGuino
Sidekick 94, 1.6L Engine 16v
4 spd Auto Tranny
4 Door 2RWD
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Messages In This Thread
MPI 16v injector replacement - by zukitrek - 11-11-2015, 10:16 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by fixkick - 11-11-2015, 10:31 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by zukitrek - 11-11-2015, 10:48 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by zukitrek - 11-15-2015, 10:51 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by fixkick - 11-15-2015, 10:21 PM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by zukitrek - 11-15-2015, 11:32 PM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by fixkick - 11-16-2015, 05:39 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by zukitrek - 11-16-2015, 07:05 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by zukitrek - 11-17-2015, 12:15 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by fixkick - 11-17-2015, 01:09 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by zukitrek - 11-17-2015, 01:33 AM
RE: MPI 16v injector replacement - by fixkick - 11-18-2015, 12:16 AM

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