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Warmed up, idling too fast
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2nd gear (balks or grinds)
my guess wrong gear oil used !
my old list
http://www.fixkick.com/IGN_timing/tune-ups.html#shelf

the tranny designer , used GL4 for those syncro's ( non trivial at all)
nothing else and for sure not synthetic oil. and not GL5 axle oil. (hypoid gear lube GL5) I do have a bottle of Napa GL (marked GL3/4/5 and it works great and do not know why, magic>?)

if sure the clutch is not dragging, parked going to reverse tells you if it is or not, reverse is non syncro gear and loves to grind first. does it?
the pressure plate can do odd things at high rpm, (cracks in it do that)

when you go to an auto store.

they mostly do not sell any synchro-mesh lube oil at all in stores, GL4 gear lube, due to , nobody today shifts.
when i get my car inspected (state law) THE GUY THERE CAN'T SHIFT A STICK (its a Brave new world, no?) (he's tasked to test my brakes by law, sad to watch that)

do not look at the MT rating on any gear lub bottle, that is for 1950 school bus with a crash box. or like my dump truck had in 1965.... 15 gears forward not one synrco.
the bottle needs to say synchromesh some where, or its no good.


if you look at that brass syncro ring it has grooves, those are TUNED for GL4 and GL4 only,

if you aks that store fibbers, (ignorant) sellers, with advice on syn lube, guess what? those groves are now useless. it slips now like mad and grinds (no matter when or what temp)
its not rocket science but is tricky this.
do not use the wrong GL.

finding real GL4 is one of the most hard things to do, in all 6 stores in my town, are not one bottle of GL4. sold if you ask the clerk some pretend to know what to do, do not LISTEN)
and the guy behind the counter never shifted a car ever in his life nor ever repair a box., nor ever learned how to make syncro happy.
He even gets a SPIFF for up-selling you that crap, synthetic lube. (conflicted to the max )
His boss tells him if not sure, UPSELL. ching ching....


my guess too #2 is that the rear bearing on the counter shaft is jumping about, did not you have bad spline there? loose? I forget.
I've told others here, I made one good box from 3 used boxes. (its not easy at all )
finding donor boxes is near impossible now.... (Suzuki does have some parts, but takes month to get if at all)
if the bearings looked new in a box and did not have funny (or worse non) markings on them then they are probably ok,
I found mine begging on CRAIGS list for months.

for sure I dont just slam in parts, that took 10 long hours labor to pull 4wd tranny. 5out 5 in.= 10. omg 5 out again? now is 15 hours. then 20....

I look at those so called new bearings for marks and the box. (seller on ebay are like stars at night, come and go, and change at drop of hat)

if they are KOYO, they are good, if the box matches the online KOYO pages for back markings, and not counterfeit form CHINA, then they are good.
China send lots of JUNK here as real, and is fake, all top bearing makers web sites warn you of this. and show how to inspect packaging
or how to buy bearings from there OFFICIAL USA distributors and be 100% safe.
the top 10 bearing makers are known, TImken tops my list and KOYO.
the lube must match what is called yellow metal synchro rings, there are others used, like my jeep has matrial there looks like BRAKE PADS, yah... and runs very special 6speed MT lube.
but the 600 bearing factories in CHINA, are not. sorry. with no name or "some ting wong"
or this.
can you read this?


look here, can you say those words, this is what to avoid. (all working grease knuckled mechanics know what these horrors are, it's means do the job the 2nd time for free ! "called COME backs")

https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb...viewtype=G
http://www.fixkick.com
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Warmed up, idling too fast - by GeoHacker - 06-06-2017, 10:43 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by GeoHacker - 06-07-2017, 09:43 AM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-07-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-07-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-07-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-07-2017, 11:23 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fetcher - 06-08-2017, 11:53 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-09-2017, 12:15 AM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-09-2017, 12:18 AM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-09-2017, 12:22 AM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by GeoHacker - 06-09-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-09-2017, 10:49 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-09-2017, 11:00 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-09-2017, 11:10 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by GeoHacker - 06-13-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 10:35 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:17 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:24 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:26 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:35 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:37 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:39 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-13-2017, 11:42 PM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by GeoHacker - 06-26-2017, 03:07 AM
RE: Warmed up, idling too fast - by fixkick - 06-26-2017, 04:07 AM

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